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In 1878, there were no parking problems, but after the automobile arrived, Neptune removed the stables but did not provide parking garages. There are photos of parking gridlock in OG after the Model T came off the assembly lines.

 

By Jack Bredin, Blogfinger reporter and researcher and a resident of Ocean Grove with one car.

August 29, 2019.

This post is in response to the BF post on 8/28/19:  “When you don’t know what to do, form a committee.”   (just scroll down)

 

New Jersey is the most densely populated state in the United States, and this fact causes known problems:

a. Traffic congestion costs millions in wasted fuel, lost time, wages, and air pollution.

b. And we should not have to drive in circles when we reach our destination.

 

So, the NJ State Legislature put two “Planning Rules” in place over 40 years ago:

Rule 1:  A municipality cannot approve a site plan application for development that creates traffic congestion or adds to any existing traffic congestion.

Rule 2:  Every site plan application must provide all the parking spaces required by State parking standards, including handicapped parking.  The basic idea is that any site plan must provide enough parking.

To insure that these two basic traffic and parking rules are followed:

1.   A licensed professional must prepare a site plan for the applicant  (developer) pursuant to State Law, and the plan must include a plan for parking. The site plan is signed, sealed and dated by the professional, certifying that the plan provides adequate parking.

2.  When the plan is filed with the town, a copy is sent to both the town’s planning consultant and engineer, and they will also determine, on behalf of the town, that the plan provides adequate parking.

Their written reports are made part of the application, and under oath the professionals present the plan, which could be bogus, to the members of the boards  (zoning and/or planning.)

After approval, board members can say, “We rely on our experts.”  But those experts may not be in compliance with State laws.

So, to correct the “culture of corruption” which exists in Neptune Township, the Ocean Grove Home Owners Association is acting as a traffic engineer as they pursue a parking solution, but they don’t have a clue about  New Jersey Land Use procedures.

They did the “Parking Study” that led to a “Parking Task Force” that recommended a few dozen diagonal spaces in the Grove, making the Town of Ocean Grove more dangerous to drive in.

From day one, Neptune did not enforce New Jersey Land Use laws in OG until the Court ordered them “to obey the Law” in 1980.

After 1980, the Township has disregarded the Court order and continues to violate Land Use Law in OG.

The Township has been consistent in ignoring the minimum amount of parking that the State requires, and State Law supersedes local Municipal Law.  As a result, hundreds of projects have been approved by the Township Committee without providing enough parking, either off street or on street.

So all those approvals have been illegal, and that failure to enforce the laws is the main cause of our parking problems today.

Kevin Chambers has been telling us that for years, and I agree with Kevin.  And Blogfinger is the only media outlet reporting this nonsense.

Does the Neptune Twp. governance fit Lincoln’s* description “of the people, for the people and by the people?” Are they what the Continental Army fought for?   There’s Jack, standing guard in the rear.

 

* From Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address:…. “...this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, and for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”

And for a musical metaphor, let’s hope the townsfolk keep trying to solve the parking problems—–a new group has formed and will continue the effort. To them we say, “Keep on dancing.”

THE GENTRYS:

 

 

 

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The siren call of the Asburian night life.. Paul Goldfinger photo of the AP skyline across Wesley Lake. ©

By Eileen and Paul Goldfinger, Editors at Blogfinger.net

Scene:  It is a stifling peak-season sunny July Saturday afternoon. The Grove is crowded and there is nary a parking space except for one across from where we are standing.

Eileen and I are gardening on the Delaware Ave. side of our house.  A car pulls into that sole remaining space, and a young man emerges. He looks around and then walks over to us.

He:  Can I park here?

We: Yes, but be sure you are close to the curb.

He:  Checking his tires. “I work at the Brick Wall in Asbury, and someone told me that I can park in Ocean Grove for free.”

We: It’s not only the workers who park here, but your customers as well, and we’re not happy with the idea.

He:  Oh….I’m sorry.

We: No need to apologize.  It is legal for you to park here.

He:  I’ve been paying over $100.00 week to park for work.

We: Wow.  (We felt bad for him….he obviously is a “working stiff.”)

He:  Well, thank you.

We:  It’s OK.   Bye.

He:   Smiles and heads towards the New Jersey Avenue Bridge across Wesley Lake to A. Park.

 

We:  We agree that A. Park is exploiting their workers by neither providing parking or paying for parking.  $100.00 is a lot for this worker. We should feel compassion for these young people, but this is Asbury’s problem to solve, and it is a reasonable concern for Grovers.

The AP City Council refused a plea from Neptune to help us with this parking situation which is their fault, and now they demand that we open our  bridge-gates.

That is Chutzpah!

 

BILLY ECKSTINE:

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TO THE EDITOR:

June 26, 2019

OGCMA, those wonderful folks who opposed parking permits for residents because it would leave fewer spots for visitors, have a lot of nerve.
For Bridgefest last Saturday they asked residents of Arlington Court (brick condos next to Youth Temple) to move their cars to accommodate the visitors.
The Arlington people did not comply with this request.
SURFER
 
The writer is a resident of Ocean Grove.

 

 

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Sent to Blogfinger by a concerned citizen reporter. Jan 2, 2019.

We have been informed that flyers (see above) are being left on some windshields of cars at the North End  (the part of Ocean Grove where most of the A. Parkers go to get free parking.)  This idea seems desperate and weak—- adrift from much chance of success. But it shows what one frustrated citizen will do in the absence of help from the HOA or the Township of Ineptitude.

Yet most of us do nothing—just grin and bear it, and the Township has been totally useless in dealing with this problem.   The Comedy promised publicly to contact the A. Park Council, but nothing came of that.  And the Home Groaners are totally inept and ineffective on this issue.

And now we see the sad result of inaction regarding the interlopers whom we watch as they pile out of cars parked on our side, then walk over to A. Park, and then return early in the morning talking loudly and waking us up.

So now we have these winter flyers. Who wants to claim that this problem is only for a few weeks in the summer?

 

—Paul Goldfinger, Editor @Blogfinger.    Thank you to the citizen who is helping keep all of us informed.

 

HER MAJESTY’S ROYAL MARINE BAND   “A Bridge Too Far.”

 

 

 

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Don’t worry about a ticket—-“everyone knows” that the police will ignore this (and they did) Blogfinger photo.©  Although they do sometimes ticket parking violations.   8/31/18

 

An interesting question is whether enforcement of such violations might improve the parking availability on gridlock summer weekends in Ocean Grove?  Yes, because enforcement promotes obeying the law, and that will insure a less chaotic parking function in this town including less resentment.   And of course, there are a number of safety issues.

And even a Bond car should get a ticket—the equal justice clause:

FROM THE BOND FILMS  “Octapussy, All Time High.”    The City of Prague Orchestra.

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At Pilgrim Pathway near Mt. Hermon Way. Blogfinger photo. Friday 8/24/18. ©

 

Pitman Avenue at the edge of Auditorium Square Park. Blogfinger photo. 8/24/18. ©

 

It was the beginning of a beautiful beach weekend.  On Friday afternoon, the floodgates of vehicles had already opened for another gridlocked weekend  in the Grove.  Ironically, both these parking games were being played out within one block of each other, almost on top of the NTPD substation next to Thornley Chapel.

By Saturday, I had to park over 3 blocks from my house, and while walking back, the sloppiness of parking on our streets was evident, with large segments of curb being empty, but not quite large enough to be a parking space.  If only some parkers were more considerate and less arrogant.

Some have suggested marking the parking spaces in town, but that would, I am told, take up even more parking spaces given the sizes required.   Have you noticed how large each marked  handicapped space is?

 

JULIO IGLESIAS     (” The games of love I played with arrogance and pride, including my parking habits.” )

 

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Fantasy parking garage in OG. Another symptom of OOGPDS.

 

From Linda:

Neptune/CMA clearly missed the boat. Using eminent domain, they could have taken the property from the Jersey Shore Arts Center to Broadway. Then, built a 3 story parking garage with easy access to Route 71. Charge for parking.

Run shuttles to beach and auditorium.

Of course, this paid lot for visitors would  bring in millions of dollars if the visitors were offered no free parking in Ocean Grove, the entire town for resident parking and friends or family of residents (with special passes).

 

Editor’s note:  This sort of idea is nothing new.  Here is a link to a Blogfinger post from 2014 which has something similar to say, only better:

Parking garage at the Arts Center 2014 BF post

 

“RAY CHARLES AND NORA JONES:  “Here We Go Again”

 

 

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Broad Street, Red Bank. 2013. Paul Goldfinger photo. ©

 

By Paul Goldfinger, Editor @Blogfinger

Red Bank has a difficult parking situation downtown, and this has been a major issue for many years. In an article in today’s Asbury Park Press, the problem in Red Bank is described as “terrible.”

There is constant competition for spaces in the White Street lot which can accommodate 273 vehicles.  Merchants are losing money because shoppers from affluent surrounding towns are reluctant to drive to downtown.  Unlike Asbury, Red Bank has no parking garage.

Parking on White Street in Red Bank by Paul Goldfnger ©

There are 1135 meters there, but they are badly out of date and cannot perform the high tech functions seen in other towns such as Asbury where the price can vary according to the time of day and day of week.   Some merchants want a parking garage, but experts say that garages are out of date.  (Did you hear that CMA??)

Red Bank will embark on its first parking study in 20 years, but the idea that creating more spaces is desirable is not such a good plan; instead better use of existing spaces should be emphasized.

Here are a few quotes from that article which is linked below:

www.app.com/story/news/local/red-bank-middletown-area/red-bank/2018/04/26/downtown-red-bank-parking-study/428009002/

APP:  In a sharp break from the “auto-centric” thinking that turned vast stretches of America’s cities and suburbs into paved parking lots, today’s top parking experts are advising cities from Princeton to Pasadena that the solution to their parking problems isn’t to add more spaces, but rather to better manage the spaces they already have.  

(Thank you Home Groaners for their recently added and  dangerous diagonal spots)

““The old paradigm assumes that parking should be abundant and free at most destinations. It strives to maximize supply and minimize price,” he explained. “The new paradigm strives to provide optimal parking supply and price. It considers too much supply as harmful as too little, and prices that are too low as harmful as those that are too high.”

“And, for that matter, why invest tens of millions of dollars on a new downtown parking garage when in the not-so-distant future your self-driving vehicle will be able to just circle the block or park in a remote lot until you’re ready to be picked up?”

In Ocean Grove, Blogfinger has been stressing that the Groaners are hopelessly mislead in finding new parking spaces, when what we need are parking meters, parking permits, and less cars in town.

We need to abolish all but a few giant events which clog the Grove’s existing parking most of the weekends in season. It’s about time that our parking emphasis should be on the residents here whose quality of life is adversely affected by car glut.

Red Bank’s issues are focused on their downtown.  That is what defines them, but OG should fulfill its destiny and master plan by promoting a residential, historic small town for the future.

COUNT BASIE,   who was born in Red Bank.  With JOE WILLIAMS:

 

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Nov 27, 2017, Main Avenue at Firemen’s Park. Note the red vehicle moving into the other lane. Blogfinger photo.

 

TREME BRASS BAND   “Just a Closer Walk With Thee”   (HBO show Treme soundtrack)

 

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A flier in Ocean Grove. 11/26/17

Paul Goldfinger,  Editor @Blogfinger

In recent days these fliers have been appearing on our windshields in town.  They are promoting support for the Neptune township/OGHOA parking plan which is to be presented at the Monday, 11/27  6pm workshop meeting at the Mother Ship.

For some reason those who are distributing the fliers do not identify themselves.  The wording is that of the OGHOA, but it could be anyone. It’s interesting that this attempt at information provides nothing more than the basics that have already been promulgated by the Groaners.   They did not see to it that we all receive a detailed copy of the plan to review in advance.

Do you think the Groaners might be afraid of scrutiny by the public?   Maybe they think you all are too stupid to comprehend, so they will try to spoon feed you some low calorie concepts at the meeting.

The idea seems to be to get a crowd to show up, but all that might do is create an impression of support for the plan to impress the Committee, but it is also possible that in the audience will be those who oppose the plan.

If you want to speak, you may have to wait quite a while, and then you can give a 5 minute speech.  If you ask a question, it’s not likely that they will respond, but you can try.

In our last article, we pointed out that the process of dealing with new plans for parking in the Grove can be complicated–unlike the description on the mystery flier.

We don’t know what will happen at that meeting, but we will let you know afterwards  in case you are home sipping a gin and tonic.

And as for the unknown flier perpetrators, if they are so eager to get us to attend the meeting, why not sign their name??  It seems a bit sleazy.

BRANDI CARLILE     “The Heartache Can Wait.”

 

 

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