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Mt. Tabor Way. October, 2017. By Surfer. Special to Blogfinger.

From Suffering Surfer:    During the summer, I occasionally drove high up (to the summit) of Mt. Tabor and saw a reserved spot. It’s not near my home or I would talk to the person about his/her selfishness. If the person is physically handicapped, then he/she should apply for a special place. I took this picture Tuesday at 1030 am. Apparently, the person still reserves a spot on weekdays in October.
This is what I call a VIP: Very Inconsiderate Parker.

 

EDITOR’S NOTE:  Surfer, as Mickey and Sylvia say, “Love is Strange.”   Our parking problems will never be solved with perfection until the number of cars allowed into town are less than the number of parking spaces.  There are solutions, but none that have been welcomed  with enthusiasm.

The only passable possible solution is to give some preference to those of us who live here (full, part-time and renters) using a system of permit parking.  Since all of us who live here are currently using a certain number of spaces,  giving a preferential nod to us will not decrease the number of spaces for others as has been alleged by naysayers.

But we are done entertaining solutions here. Let the Groaners continue to flail around —getting nowhere.

And by the way, for those who allege that we don’t have parking problems here  (Jack Green said on Facebook that there are only about 18 days at peak season when there is trouble parking), the season extends from May through October  (a full 6 months.)

Just last Saturday, October 7, 2017, there was parking gridlock due to the thousands in Asbury for Zombie Day and the Harvest Festival crowd in the Grove.  Even Zombies and pumpkin sellers are on an equal footing with Grovers in seeking parking spaces.

Anyhow, we have been collecting photos from the “parking wars,” so keep them coming, just for the Heck Avenue of it.

—Paul @Blogfinger

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MICKEY AND SYLVIA:

 

 

 

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This car at Heck and Benson has been parked there for 4 months. It is missing the rear license plate. Imagine  if that corner house were yours.   The police have not acted. Blogfinger photo 9/28/17

The Township Committee has proposed an ordinance to deal with the problem of warehoused cars in the Grove.  Such vehicles will be impounded if they have been parked in one spot for 30 days or more.

There will be a public hearing on this proposed ordinance at the Oct 5 meeting.

The definition of impounded is “seize and take legal custody of  something, especially a vehicle, goods, or documents because of an infringement of a law or regulation.”

If a car does not have an up-to-date registration, it can currently receive a summons and can be towed.

The car above is missing the rear license plate, but the inspection sticker is up-to-date.  We don’t know if it has a current registration. There are no tickets under the wipers.

There is a warehoused vehicle on Delaware Avenue which the out-of-town owner moves  slightly every once in a while.  We also know that some people store a car on Ocean Avenue to use as a beach locker.

HERE IS ORDINANCE 17-40. There is a second page which has to do with “presumption of abandonment” but this is the main part.         Click on it for easier reading:

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Paul Goldfinger, Editor @Blogfinger.

GRIMES X BLEACHERS  “Entropy”  (Soundtrack of HBO’s Girls.)

“Calculate the entropy
Running out of energy
A lack of love or empathy
Leave me lonely”

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Fletcher Lake in Ocean Grove.  Part of the “community?” Click to enlarge and see what’s at stake when Ocean Grove policy is commandeered by the CMA and the Township. How about the citizens?    Paul Goldfinger photo.  ©

The quote below is from Rev. John DiGiamberardino’s statement to the Neptune Township Committee at their regular meeting on Monday, August 14, 2017, in the Municipal Building. He is the COO of the Ocean Grove Camp Meeting Association.:

“The OGCMA, founder of the community, has existed for 148 years as the leading organization and tax payer in Ocean Grove seeking the good of the community, residents, and visitors.”

The context of his statement was to object vigorously against the idea of permit parking for OG citizens and to threaten a law suit if the CMA’s demands are not met.    We already posted much of what he said  and commented on much of his message.  (link below:)

CMA threatens law suit over parking

But if you read the quote above carefully, you will see that we need to clarify some of his words and definitions. Words have meaning, and I assume that the Reverend wants us to understand his meaning.  So we will try to deconstruct his sentence.

a.  “The OGCMA, founder of the community…..”    What does “community” mean?  He refers to the “community” as being separate from “residents” when he says that “OGCMA seeks the good of the community, residents and visitors,”  so “community” evidently refers to something other than the citizens who live here.

He introduces the OGCMA as the “founder of the community” as if that has some special significance in terms of governance  in this town.  When the State Supreme Court turned governance of Ocean Grove over to Neptune in 1980, that left the CMA as being just another group or entity in OG with no legal special influence in the decisions of the Neptune government, such as what to do about parking

b. ” The leading organization..” Does this mean the most important organization in town?  Does he claim special entitlement because of being “the leading organization?”

c. “The leading taxpayer” seems to refer to the OG entity which  pays the most tax money to Neptune Township. Does he mention this because those who pay the most taxes deserve the most attention or the most influence?     We have residents in this town who pay no property taxes.  Do they have no influence?

d. “148 years”  Does he mention this because he wants to teach us some history or does it mean that the oldest organization in town deserves some special consideration?    Otherwise, why do we need that number?

e.  ” The CMA is seeking the good of the community, residents, and visitors.”  In order to understand this claim,  we need to know the definition of “good.”  It seems to be condescending for the CMA to know what “good” we residents need, and then to demand public policy based on that unique knowledge.

My guess is that the CMA thinks that it has some special advantage over the rest of us that entitles it to apply its  unique influence in getting the Township to make decisions in its favor, such as re-zoning the North End and refusing to consider a permit parking plan.

The CMA threatens a lawsuit over this.  If they think that they are  more important than any other constituency in town, and if the Township agrees with that, then that seems like a potential Constitutional violation  if laws are passed in their favor.  (“Equal justice under the law.”)

Are we wrong?  Are we totally misconstruing what Rev. John said in that statement?   What do you think this means?

 

Written August 18, 2017,  by Paul Goldfinger, Editor @Blogfinger

 

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Grounds for Sculpture, Hamilton Township. You can picnic there, but there is one catch.

 

From Anita Meeks of OG:    “Perfect Day Trip! ART! SCULPTURE! HORTICULTURE!

“Friends of Neptune Library sponsoring bus trip to Grounds for Sculpture.  Tuesday, September 19.

“Trip leaves Neptune Senior Center @ 10 AM (parking there).   1 hr. docent led walking tour there/ lunch on your own.
“Trip returns @ 5PM.  $50 pp  payable to Neptune Library.More info  and reservations call Anita 732-775-1186 “

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MUSIC OF THE WEEK:

YO-YO MA, ENNIO MORRICONE:   “Gabriel’s Oboe” from the album Essential Yo-Yo Ma.   This movie music from The Mission, was composed by world famous Italian composer Ennio Morricone.

The Mission is a  1986 film about 18th century Jesuit priests who try to protect an Indian tribe in a remote region of South America.   Roland Joffé was the director, and the stars were Robert DeNiro, Liam Neeson, and Jeremy Irons.

Morricone’s  music for this film won the Golden Globe for Best Original Score, and the film was nominated for a Best Picture Oscar.

 

 

 

 

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Delaware Avenue, south of Main.Parallel parking is an adventure. Click to Seymour. Blogfinger photo 8/19/17 ©

This is Delaware Avenue,  just south of Main Avenue.  Ironically, there is a funeral home to the right. This street here is very narrow, as are many OG streets.  It’s a sunny Saturday in August, and there is gridlock. About 60 seconds before this photo was taken that parking spot was vacated.  The prior occupant pulled out of the space very slowly.

30 seconds after that, this vehicle showed up.  There was room for parking, but parallel parking in a place like that always feels as if you would hit the car on the other side. You have to have faith in the Lord that you will not do so, and almost always you don’t. This driver must have been sweating this experience.  Behind his car is another car waiting.

But why should parking be a frightening experience and why do we allow our town to overflow with cars—many more than there are spaces?

NJ.com  June 2016:  The Neptune mayor was interviewed about OG parking.  “We have to take a look at the proposals that do what’s best for the greater good,” McMillan said.  Bull!!

This is double talk for “we are not going to seriously look at the OGHOA permit parking proposal.”  This also is fake news because he doesn’t tell us what “greater good” means.  He certainly isn’t giving the residents any advantage.

Parking should not be an absolute democracy.  Permit parking works in many other towns which recognize that their residents are special and need assistance. That is the greater good!    The objections mentioned by the CMA earlier this week (Aug. 2017 ) are bogus.

In that 2016 NJ.com interview, McMillan said, “There’s no easy solution to the parking issue, and the best way to address it is to let the political process play out.”  Is he serious??  We cannot trust the “political process”in Neptune.   Ask them what happened to the revised  HPC guidelines——MIA.

And he said, “We’re not going to run away from the problem.   More gobbledygook!  Look what happened over the ensuing year—-nothing but poppycock. Our local government specializes in poppycock and they should hang a banner to that effect in front of the Mother Ship.

And now, 2017, Mayor Brantley tells the Coaster  (but not the citizens of OG) that permit parking is dead.

Consider Belmar:  In 2015 they closed down the entire town when the number of cars exceeded the number of spaces during a seafood festival.  But the official Belmar stance on parking, as stated by their mayor, is that they place the interests of their residents first.

Their online site says,  “Belmar’s leadership and citizenry always understood that lack of parking is a serious problem here and that increases in the availability of parking must accompany any increased development.”

Do you think the Neptune leadership ever had this thought in mind when it approved condos without parking?

Paul Goldfinger Editor @Blogfinger.net

MARLENE DIETRICH.  She sings this to the Neptune Committee on behalf of OG residents:

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By Paul Goldfinger, Editor and Jack Bredin Reporter and Researcher @Blogfinger.net

The meeting hadn’t yet begun, but the Township Committee attendees were greeted outside the Municipal Building by a group of demonstrators with signs complaining about plans to build a bulk-head at the Shark River. Blogfinger has little interest in the subject, but we are impressed that,  for the first time which we are aware, citizen-pickets protested outside.

We need more of that sort of activism when Ocean Grove has demands, and we often do.

Last night the OG Home Groaners planned to pressure the Committee into seriously looking into resident permit parking. They expected citizens to show up and loudly complain (at the microphone) that we need permits.  Even the political arm of Ocean Grove United tried to push the issue on behalf of their allies, the HOA, with a mass email  containing Joyce Klein’s  (HOA Parking Committee Chair) plea to show up.

But since the Home Groaners never publicly revealed their permit plan, how is the public supposed to make up its mind on this controversial issue?  Is this one of those “vote for it first and then find out what’s in it” moments?

As it turns out, an estimated 15 people spoke up, but about half were opposed and the other half were in favor; a somewhat similar result to our BF poll. Since those in favor had no idea what exactly they were in favor of, they basically asked the Committee to “do something.”  And those who were  opposed had no idea exactly what they were opposed to. They basically said “It won’t work.”

And the Committee seemed to cling to its  OG parking strategy which is to squirm in their seats while making believe they care.  This topic offers a no-win situation for them, and they have no courage to address it.   They want it to go away.

And the Home Groaners Ass. once again comes up empty regarding an issue that OG residents do care about.

Two interesting Grovers went to the microphone.  The first was Ted Bell, OG historian and HSOG member.  He said that he was in favor of a permit plan.

The other well known guest was Rev. John DiGiamberardino, COO of the Camp Meeting Association.  He read a prepared statement opposing a permit plan on the grounds that it would not coincide with the group’s “Mission Statement.”    The last time we heard that was when the citizens were rejected for a dog park in the Grove.

He did not hand out copies of his statement.  We will try to get one, since the OGHOA is very influential in town and in their dealings with the Committee.  Also, this must be important to the CMA, because they almost never go public with their views; except when Rev. John sent out a statement in the recent past on ground rents.

But, hang onto your hats, because this was a very long meeting and there was more trash talk to keep the Committee on the edge of their podium seats.

Here’s a song dedicated to the Township Committee from their buddies the OGHOA:

MARILYN MONROE

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Blogfinger supports resident permit parking, but it has to be done right. © BF flier. July 2017.

By Paul Goldfinger, Editor @Blogfinger.net

February HOA minutes:   “Parking Committee:   Joyce reported that at the regular meeting of  the Neptune Township Committee scheduled for Monday, February 27,  a resolution to adopt the Township  Committee’s  parking recommendations would be proposed. The recommendations include:  1. Angle parking on one side of Main Street and one side of Central Avenue and 2. Enforcement of the existing commercial parking regulations.  ”

No mention of permit parking.

April HOA minutes: “Parking report:  Joyce Klein reported that the Neptune Council will have a second  and final reading of the ordinance allowing for the potential addition of about 18 angle parking spots.”

No mention of permit parking.

May HOA minutes:    “Parking:    Richard Williams reported that the striping on Central Avenue is being done; striping at the west end of Main Avenue is yet to be done.”

No mention of permit parking

June HOA minutes : “Joyce Klein provided  an update on parking.  Angle parking has been put in place on Central and Main Avenues, resulting in a net gain of 18 parking spots.  The OGHOA parking committee will resume its efforts to bring about substantive changes to improve the parking situation in Ocean Grove.”

No mention of permit parking

July: no minutes  See link below.

July 8. Blogfinger poll asked if Grovers would support permit parking. 330 votes were cast.    58% said yes, but we suspected that the no votes were inflated.  And it’s hard to vote when the plan details have not been revealed by the Home Groaners. So some skeptics voted no, but if a good plan were conceived, we believe that they will vote “yes.”

July 11: Blogfinger article:   permit parking post by BF 7/11

July 21:  Blogfinger post on this subject:    BF July article about parking fake news

August 12, 2017        Email from Joyce Klein of the HOA:      “I know many have been attending the Township Committee meetings to speak out about the need for permit parking.  We have been effective in keeping the topic front and center and I am hopeful that we will see some action* on parking in the near future.”

(Editor’s note:  “some action* on parking.”  Talk about evasive use of language and fake news. The lack of transparency is evident. The Groaners need to be replaced!)

The HOA brought up the subject of permit parking last  year, but when the Committee ignored them, they folded like a cheap camera and jumped on board for the 18 diagonal parking space solution.  There was no further mention of permit parking until recently when they say that they have been “keeping the topic front and center.” More fake news.

At the last Committee meeting the OG Home Groaners Ass. persuaded some Grovers to speak out during the public session, but the HGA never explained to the public what their permit parking plan will be.  Now again, they want the public to make noise at the Committee meeting coming up tomorrow, July 14.

But why should anyone be enthused about the Groaners’ current efforts when they have never made public their secret plan for permit parking?   We know it exists, because we saw it, and the reason they don’t reveal it is because they don’t want any push-back from the citizens.  The OG Home Groaners are like a secret society with its own agendas and they will even try to change history and spread fake news as  you can see above.

Meanwhile, Blogfinger posted 10 articles in the last two months, mostly to push for permit parking.  Just type in “permit parking” in the search block above.   2 of them are linked above.

Here’s an idea:  A Grover told me about the resident permit parking plan in Hoboken which works:

Most streets in Hoboken are designated on one side (the north or west side) as “Resident Permit Parking Only” with a green sign/white letters, and the other side (south or east side) as “Permit Parking Only” with a white sign and green letters. The remaining streets are typically in commercial areas and designated as metered (time limit) parking.

Hows that for looking after number one?

THE BAND PERRY:  “You Lie”

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Commercial vehicle parked at a work site early on a Sunday morning.  No work being done that day.    7/30/17 ©

The commercial van above should not be left overnight at a job site. Allowing such vehicles to park on residential streets overnight aggravates the parking situation and encourages other contractors to do the same.  However if the commercial van owner actually lives in the Grove, there is an ordinance exception for one such vehicle.

DEAN MARTIN   ‘Please Don’t Talk About Me When I’m Gone.”

 

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Baltimore. Internet photo.

By Paul Goldfinger, Editor @Blogfinger

We have been under the impression that there is no law against placing a cone or other object at the curb to save a parking space.  This issue comes up every summer and during every serious snowfall.  Of course, no one has the right to save a space, so anyone could come along, remove the cone, and pull right in.  Only a few, however, would have the nerve to do that, for a variety of reasons.  We also have been under the impression that the police would not care about this issue and would not likely respond to such a complaint.

So, while at a recent OG social event,  I discovered that some citizens were disagreeing about this issue, and they asked me.  I offered my usual opinion, but I promised to check with the NTPD.

Today I spoke to Lt. Michael Zarro who is the Traffic Officer for NTPD.  He said that saving a space with an object in the road was a violation. Nothing is allowed in the road except the usual suspects—vehicles  (parked or moving.)  And that evidently applies to cones or garbage pails at the curb placed there for reasons other than the legitimate ones, such as a crater pothole, construction, or a pail full of garbage waiting  for the trash men or women.

But enough trash talk…..Lt. Zarro said that his officers will respond if someone calls with a complaint.  They will remove the object and they may actually place it into custody, so don’t use your wife to save a space.  I gather that they may not intervene if no one complains, but I wouldn’t count on it.  It looks like our understanding on this was wrong.

Of course, we know that Grovers are very creative about saving spaces through the innovative spacing of their vehicles. That is not against the law.

We did have a Blogfinger conversation about this subject in 2013, and there are some very good comments  (35 responses)  to read in order to get some insight about your neighbors.  During that discussion some did say that conification of parking spaces is illegal.    A BF poll in 2015 found that 70% of  respondents thought it was OK to save a space.

So if you decide to create a cone zone in front of your house, you may have an issue that you were not anticipating and you may have to face the music.  And if you want to speak to Lt. Zarro, he invites you to call him at 732 988 8000, ext 433.

Saving a space discussion 2013 BF

VINCE GIORDANO AND THE NIGHTHAWKS:  “Let’s Face the Music.” From their album Cheek to Cheek

 

 

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Have a thrill: comment on Blogfinger and sign your real name! Paul Goldfinger photo © Long Beach Island, NJ.

From Surf Guy:

Is there a reason we don’t stripe spots on the streets? I see problems all the time with people saving spots, or just parking badly and taking up space that could fit additional cars. Seems like a few more spots per block wouldn’t hurt.

Editor’s note:  For the life of me, I cannot understand why perfectly reasonable  people like Surf Guy won’t put their real names with their ideas.

Please people, use your real names for serious ideas. You will have more credibility if you do so.

–Paul Goldfinger, Editor @Blogfinger.

KATHY BRIER:  “After You Get What You Want (You Don’t Want it)    From Boardwalk Empire  (HBO)

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