Is this the historic look that the HPC wants for the North End?* The CMA seems to want to re-create the good old days in the Grove and call it “historic.”
This space on the southern border of Asbury Park, across from Wesley Lake, will get condos in the future. Does Ocean Grove need to add more condos to the neighborhood? Isn’t AP more in need of “redevelopment” than we are? Blogfinger photo.
By Paul Goldfinger, Editor @Blogfinger
If you were wondering what our new North End hotel might look like, better hope it doesn’t take shape like the one on top. The NERP calls for an 85 room hotel, but don’t worry—-remember that the HPC must approve the design. What? You don’t trust the HPC? Perhaps you are thinking about the Greek Temple on Main Avenue or about the new Mary’s Place which will take up two lots and look like a pseudo- Victorian building designed to fool the tourists.
Or perhaps it occurs to you that there are enough hotels in the neighborhood counting the one above, so maybe we don’t need another hotel in the Grove. Currently in Asbury Park there are 3 hotels: Berkley-Carteret, Tides, and Empress. In Ocean Grove we have Majestic, Shawmont, and Laingdon.
How about a nice park which we could call “Hotel Park” to remember the old North End Hotel which became useless in its time and was finally torn down in 1978.
Did you have a look at recently built condos in Ocean Grove (e.g. on Ocean Pathway) or in Asbury Park? What do you think?
Editor’s note March, 2021. We have posted the architects design* for the hotel and condos. It has a pseudo-Victorian look.
Historic zoning should not have permitted a hotel now at this site. Just because there was a hotel before in that vicinity does not mean that another one should be allowed. The 1911 hotel at the North End was demolished in 1978. Note that the Asbury Hotel has opened in the interim, while the Tides has closed.
Paul Goldfinger, Editor Blogfinger.net In response to Annabel Bisset’s current comment to us about the NJDEP’s attitude towards underground garages.
On March 22, 2020, Blogfinger posted an article about the OGNED application to the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection regarding the North End project. The application was prepared by a consultant (LOMAX)
The application contains 400 pages, but we all have known for a long time that environmental issues would be paramount when it was time to go to the state DEP for approvals.
In that article (March 2020) we posted the cover letter and a map. We questioned a number of provisions contained in that application. We have re-posted that piece above.
In that March 2020 piece we mentioned the controversial planned underground garage. This is what we said:
“I don’t see any mention of the underground garage. Would that not be an important environmental concern given that this project has boundaries on a natural lake and on an ocean? Have they given up the plan for an underground garage? If not, why isn’t it shown in the enclosed site plan?”
On April 15, the DEP sent a letter to OGNED saying that more information was needed. That letter is linked below.
The April 2020, deficiency letter identifies a number of issues, but not the underground garage.
Over the years, in our many articles about the North End, we and quite a few of our readers questioned the environmental impact of that proposed garage.
Then, in May, 2020, according to an email to their members from the Ocean Grove Homeowners Association, the DEP has declared the application to be “deficient” on the grounds that “no subsurface enclosures are permitted.”
Blogfinger has not seen that alleged garage denial letter.
It’s hard to imagine how OGNED can do their huge project without that garage, unless, of course, they pull strings in Neptune and get approval for a 150 car above ground garage on the surface. If they do that, there should be an insurrection in town.
Maybe this will provide an opportunity for the CMA and for Neptune Township, like the Tin Man in the Wizard of Oz, to get a heart and do something beautiful and grand at the North End.
And, as usual, the Groaners offer no opinions about this remarkable happening. When will they find the courage, like the Lion, to become activists and get tough on behalf of we the people?
This situation provides an opportunity to make noise, once again, about the misguided and selfish plan for the North End of Ocean Grove. Maybe some citizens can form an ad hoc group to push for new ideas at the North End. Don’t let this upheaval go to waste.
Let’s hope that our faith in the DEP will be reinforced.
Also note our January 2020 piece about the North End, with 20 comments. This analytic Blogfinger post references events in 2019.
And from the ‘Useless Decorations Department” of the HOA comes a map of historic OG which was included in the email. But why did they include that map? Who knows? No explanation.
This map is very early, but no date. c. 1879. Click to enlarge and study.
But while we are here, note the area of the OGNED North End. It contains 19 lots for single family homes. Jack Bredin tells us that those lots were originally designated for ministers and their families. And before Neptune changed the zoning in 2007, it was zoned only for 25 single family homes.
There is nothing there to suggest a project such as has been proposed by the CMA/OGNED/Neptune Township/OGHOA.
CMA Pres. Badger tried to argue that the current proposal would fulfill some sort of historic vision for the area, but if historic vision is what they want, then how about tent village part II or a wonderful park for all.
Osborne, the founder of OG, was offered a money making opportunity to join with Bradley (AP founder) to make our “sister cities” into a great investment. But Osborne declined saying that making money was not part of the original OG vision. No wonder the CMA has been going under-cover on this project.
Is it treading too lightly to call the NERP “Asbury Park South?” Our North End Redevelopment project will be more intrusive near the ocean than Asbury or other nearby towns have done.
And don’t forget the White Whale site (where the recent fire occurred) where developers will try to re-build east of our boardwalk. Which of our neighbors have built recently east of their boardwalk?
The OG North End is currently open space, light, and air. OGNED will destroy that and create something more congested on our boardwalk than even Asbury has done on theirs. Their condos are all around the AP beach area, but not on top of the boardwalk as will occur with the NERP. And their boardwalk is much wider than ours.
The reason for the current asphalt jungle over there is that they need to figure out the elevations for construction immediately adjacent to the west side of the boardwalk.
The Camp Meeting’s plans to re-do that North End boardwalk is about more than altruism.
From Grease: Bring back pedal pushers. Sha la, la, la, la, la, la etc.
As most of you know, the NJDEP has been considering the North End Plan for CAFRA approvals. CAFRA is the Coastal Area Facility Review Act of 1973.
OGNED, the “re-developers ” of the Ocean Grove North End Redevelopment Plan, are awaiting approval of their application. Many of us have been concerned about the environmental impact of that project, nestled between the ocean and Wesley Lake. The plan calls for an underground garage, condominiums, private homes, retail, and a hotel.
This year is the 50th anniversary of the NJDEP. Their web site says, “Celebrating its 50th birthday in 2020, the DEP makes New Jersey a stronger and fairer state by protecting our environment and public health. With hard work, exceptional knowledge and expertise, the DEP’s men and women have made the agency an unfailing guardian of New Jersey’s precious natural and historic resources.” (our italics)
The public is now invited to express their concerns to the NJDEP. The DEP has no plans for public hearings on this topic, but any of you are in a position to communicate with them as individuals or as a group.
At Blogfinger we know about the Ocean Grove public’s opposition to the project, so now’s the time to send an email to the DEP. We know that the DEP is interested in what the citizens of Ocean Grove have to say.
Blogfinger has obtained the contact information below, thanks to the Press Department at DEP in Trenton:
“Residents wanting to comment on the proposed project may email the project manager at becky.mazzei@dep.nj.gov or send their comment to this address:
“New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection
Division of Land Use Regulation
P.O. Box 420, Code 501-02A
Trenton, New Jersey 08625
Attn: Neptune Supervisor “
Editor’s Note: If you send BF a copy of your note, we will post it on this site. Using your real name is most effective, and we will collect those notes in our comments section.
For those of you who belong to organizations in town which profess to care about the Grove’s history, safety, welfare, health, and future, you should urge them to pressure the DEP to reject this application.
The Homeowners Assoc. is planning a town-wide survey because they don’t know what to do to keep busy, so here is something that they should support forcefully. It’s about time they gave a damn! Others which should step up include OG United, Historical Society, Chamber of Commerce, and the Better Parking Alliance.
Approval of the North End as a Zone in Need of Redevelopment was illegal to begin with, and the Plan can still be turned back on those grounds alone, notwithstanding the environmental concerns.
This plan is not in the best interest of the people of Ocean Grove. Speak up now or regret it later. The DEP can stop this ill-conceived project.
Write an email. You have until Dec. 21, but maybe they will read your message now (FE 4, 2021)
Speaking of environmental: Will the North End Plan take care of increased ground water that could pollute the ocean and the lake? Blogfinger photo.
By Paul Goldfinger, Editor @Blogfinger.net.
October 26, 2020. Ocean Grove, NJ
The DEP application has been held up for months now; we don’t know all the details about what is delaying approval, but our last communication with the DEP (Oct. 8) is linked below.
In it, the DEP Press Officer told us:
“Paul, nothing has been approved at this point. The fact that the application has been deemed complete only means the DEP has been provided all the required information to now put the proposal up for public review and comment.”
I have also checked the latest DEP Bimonthly Bulletin, but there is nothing there about the North End application. I will look into that further. If nothing else, Blogfinger will shine a light on the opaque and sneaky OGNED.
Remember when they came to the Groaners’ meeting, refusing to answer certain questions, and the Groaners supported that censorship? What do the Groaners stand for?
We have reached this point without any updated public statements on the subject by Neptune Township, the CMA, the Home Groaners, or the opaque and secretive OGNED. The bottom line is that nothing has been approved yet, and public comments will have to be solicited.
The letter below, dated Oct. 20, 2020, is written by the Lomax Consulting Group which has been representing OGNED, the self-proclaimed North End Re-developer. We believe that the letter was sent to everyone who owns a home within 200 feet of the North End project.
The letter was shared with us by an anonymous source. He/she says, “Just received this updated notification of the application for a CAFRA permit for the north end. The only difference from the original one received in March is the location now includes Part of Lot 5 and the End of Beach Avenue which were not on the original application as well as the NJDEP File Number. There is no change to the plan attached to the application.”
Click on letter and site plan for easier reading.
Note that the letter doesn’t spell out the process whereby public hearings might be held. The only way that the fraudulent aspects of this application might be exposed is if knowledgeable OG organizations or individuals formally contact the DEP to request hearings to be held in the Grove.
In a normal town, the Home Owners Association would step up and make sure that the interests of OG residents are represented, but our HOA is useless when it comes to advocacy in the face of dangerous issues such as what OGNED, CMA and Neptune Townships are planning for the North End. But if anyone does want to formally request such an inquiry, they need to send a letter with return receipt requested.
As we have pointed out, the plan which Lomax submitted to the NJDEP is not the one approved by the Neptune Township Committee back in 2008 which included 165 condominiums. And it is not the one which Mayor Rizzo carelessly signed off on in her “Redevelopers Agreement” with OGNED last year.
Site plan submitted to NJDEPfor Block 101, lots 3&4, parts of loat 2 and 54, and end of Beach Avenue
Editor’s note: Read that letter. They don’t mention an “underground garage,” only 140 spaces “covered by a podium deck..” The total parking is 155 spaces. Where are the other 15?
They also mention a “historic hotel.” That is clearly nonsensical and dishonest terminology.
Speaking of “historic;”
The Lenape Indians probably were in Ocean Grove back when, so tents are truly historic for the North End. And so were bikinis on the beach. Let’s turn the North End into Tent Village II. Source: Google says so.
And they say, “The project will not result in the adverse impact on environmentally sensitive areas” Really? Are Wesley Lake and the Atlantic Ocean “environmentally sensitive areas?”
Let’s not let Ocean Grove slip slide away:
PAUL SIMON 2011 in London at the iTunes Festival
“Slip slidin’ away Slip slidin’ away You know the nearer your destination The more you’re slip slidin’ away.”
Here is a re-post of part I of our research about the Embury Arms Condominiums posted in September of 2015. Time to re-read it now in 2020. The dots between it and the current North End Plan can be connected.
Recently a reader wondered about the Embury Arms condominiums. Her concern came about in the midst of our real-time discussions of the North End Project and Mary’s Place zoning. She asked how that large condo project came about and whether there were issues then similar to the ones that we have been considering recently.
Embury Arms condominiums on Whitefield Avenue consist of 112 units. It was built in the 1980’s. Old OG newspaper reports say that the CMA approved the project in 1978, and then the ground breaking ceremony was held in 1980. Those news reports never mention approvals by Neptune Twp. nor do they mention any concerns about historic preservation. They do talk about energy conservation measures that won awards for the developer.
These condos are 1 and 2 bedroom apartments within four large 3 story buildings. The complex sits in the middle of the Grove, surrounded by Benson, Delaware, Heck and Abbott Avenues. Embury and Webb Avenues stop short as they go west to Delaware Avenue, right at the border of the Embury Arms condos, and Whitefield Avenue goes straight through the middle, with private parking spaces on the perimeter of a public street.
Ocean Grove Times, August 25, 1978.
An ad in a 1982 local newspaper describes “authentic Victorian designs.” The apartments were starting at $49,900.00.
The official 2015 CMA summer guidebook map shows Webb and Embury going straight through to Lawrence Avenue, but they do not and they never did because west of Delaware, where Embury Arms now sits, there were stables, used mostly for storage by the Camp Meeting Association. Apparently some of the buildings were rented out for parking, but it was not an area for public parking.
It is not our intention to review the detailed history of this condo project, but anyone walking by has to wonder how the heck the developer got permission to do this distinctly un-Grovian style condominium complex. It not only is contrary to the Master Plan as we know it, but it takes up space that could have been filled with single family Victorian style homes in order to match the appearance of the rest of the Grove.
Embury Arms provides PRIVATE parking by allowing head-on placement of vehicles on Whitefield Avenue that is partly on private property (using the theoretical front yards of those lots) but it also allows the cars to stick out over where the public sidewalks should be. In other words, that parking lot violates the public pedestrian right of way.
Normally the right of way along a public street is 40 feet wide, consisting of the road (auto right of way) and the sidewalks (pedestrian right of way) measured together.
Yes they put some recessed sidewalks there, but that is private property, and public access could theoretically be shut down at any time. The Whitefield Ave. auto right of way is intact for cars driving through, but is not inviting for autos to drive through, and warning signs threaten anyone who would dare park there.
In addition, the project deprived Ocean Grove of many potential public parking spaces if private homes had been built on streets. Instead, all those curb cuts created a giant parking lot. Where else in town is a public street (in this case Whitefield Avenue) used for private parking?
The property was originally used for stables, so no private homes were demolished to make room. Undoubtedly the CMA, the Township, and the developer were in collusion to create this massive mistake, but the history of the time* indicates that OG was not as proactive in historic preservation then. It was a time when governance here was in a state of flux**, and the public did not protest much. There was a suit that delayed completion, but eventually the Embury Arms condominiums were finished. At least the condo developer of Embury Arms provided parking, even though the law was stretched to make that happen.
We have no information as to how the zoning was finessed to allow this, nor do we know what the Planning Board had to say. At any rate, it is a done deal, and nothing can be done about it at this point.
It is interesting that there is an earlier precedent. In 1964, across from Days, a large hotel burned down, and in its place rose the Arlington Court Co-op. consisting of one bedroom apartments for which no mortgages were allowed. This was a new idea for the Grove, and evidently no one cared that single family Victorian homes were not built. The CMA was in charge then and they must have supported the idea. (? sound familiar)
However, now we are in a position to do something about the largest condominium development in the history of Ocean Grove—the North End Redevelopment Project. But there is concern that public apathy will once again allow a wrong-headed condo project to go ahead. We have seen this illegal process before. If no one takes legal action when work begins or sooner, then, as with other projects in town, nothing can be done after the fact.
The CMA and the Township are counting on public inaction. Will we let them do it again?
CREDITS:
Ted Bell*, Ocean Grove historian
Jack Bredin, Blogfinger researcher
Tom Constantino, Blogfinger researcher
** In 1980, governance of Ocean Grove was turned over to Neptune Township by the NJ Supreme Court. That transition must have taken years to work out, but the Embury Arms project took hold during that delicate time.
Here is a link to Part II of this Embury Arms historical review.
The HOA is behind the North End project. They may not be investors, but they are enablers.
By Paul Goldfinger Editor @Blogfinger.net
It turns out that two of the major financial players belonging to OGNED, the North End redeveloper, are part of an investment company called MB1–Capital Partners. Evidently they were added to WAVE in order to provide needed financing of the OG North End project which was recently unveiled publicly.
The link below will take you to our post on this subject. It names the four major stockholders in OGNED including Joel Brudner and Christopher T. McCallion, who are part of MB1.
What’s ironic is that 2 of the OGNED partners were among the main financiers and part owners of the Beach Haus Brewery in Belmar (2014) which replaced the old Freedman’s Bakery.
The ironic part is that these brewsters are now investing in the Grove, one of the driest towns in New Jersey.
Do you think the new North End hotel will serve alcohol? How loud does money talk at the Mother Ship?
Will the OG blue laws wind up at the bottom of Wesley Lake? Maybe the Township Committee will be revisiting the need for blue laws now that 2020 has arrived.
It’s not unreasonable to consider jettisoning those archaic rules which are there just to satisfy one segment of town. How about a referendum to find out if the citizens of OG want alcohol and tobacco sold in the Grove and if they want the beaches open all day on Sundays.
And while we are looking at OGNED in more detail, let’s find out who the rest of OGNED are. That information was promised some time ago, but the Township has not released all that info. How many of them conspired in 2007 to change the North End zoning and how many of them have a track record of building condos without parking in OG?
The North End Re-development Zone is, at heart, a public project. The public should know who is behind the planned North End monstrosity. Why the secret?
Note Wesley Lake to the right. The North End Hotel has been torn down, but the salt water swimming pool remains. You can see the outlines of the North End area which will be “re-developed” according to the North End Re-development Plan. and imagine where the condos will be along Lake Avenue, Spray Avenue, and the Ocean. Then imagine a hotel there which probably will actually become condos. Oh, and don’t forget the parking garage underground, stores, and new North End boardwalk.
The process is currently moving forward, and that “progress” is being followed here on Blogfinger. Pay close attention to the changes in NERP 2008 which are being slipped into place. See our post later today. —–PG
Thanks to William Heatley for making his photograph available here.
You may recall that Paul Revere came riding into Concord-Lexington in the spring of 1775 to warn that the British were coming. He didn’t know exactly why they were coming, but he was suspicious and he delivered the warning.
At Blogfinger we are enacting the Paul Revere Syndrome to warn you all about the forthcoming Planning Board meeting on Nov. 13 at 7 pm in the Municipal Building, 2nd floor Committee room, regarding OGNED’s design for that 3 acre North End site west of the Boardwalk.
That meeting was announced by Vito Gadaleta at last night’s Committee meeting.
Like Paul Revere, we currently have no specific knowledge of what the agenda will say or exactly what will be discussed or approved, but we have some ideas about what the issues ought to be.
It is the job of the Planning Board to make sure that the 2019 OGNED plan for the North End agrees with the original 2008 NERP.
We know that OGNED has changed the original plan in terms of number of condominiums, details about the garage, hotel rooms, etc, but those changes were not approved using State procedures as to how to change a zone in need of redevelopment plan.
So how can the Planning Board approve something that is not in agreement with the 2008 NERP? We guess they can simply approve it, and the hell with the laws on land use. We have seen that MO before.
In addition, as Kevin Chambers has pointed out, the Township has, as far as we know, not done the necessary subdivisions of the parcel.
Also, we wonder about easements which the original NERP called for to provide water, sewer, gas, and electric for whatever would be built at the White Whale site east of the Boardwalk. And what have they done regarding the fact that the White Whale site is not on a street?
So, as with Paul Revere’s ride in 1775, on a fast horse, we are riding on the wings of the Internet to alert you that OGNED will be coming with its lawyers, and our message is that they will try to slip something past Neptune officials that will not be in Ocean Grove’s best interest.
And, like Benedict Arnold, this Mayor is not on our side.
We expect an agenda before November 10th, and that OGNED will try to get a complex and worrisome plan through in one fell swoop.
(Note: One fell swoop: All at once, in a singleaction.Thistermwasusedandprobablyinvented by Shakespeare in Macbeth(4:3),wheretheplaywrightlikensthemurder of Macduff’swifeandchildren to a hawkswoopingdown on defenselessprey.
Well, OGNED and the Township are predator hawks, and Ocean Grove is the defenseless prey.
Perhaps our modern day Paul Revere will ride again to give more information for those of you who might attend that meeting.
The OG Homeowner’s Assoc. has been complaining at the Committee meetings about the unkempt condition of the Redevelopment site. However, despite the messiness, you can still look out over this vista. That won’t be possible after OGNED, Neptune Township, and the CMA are done.
a. Withdrew the 2008 (10 year old) public North End Redevelopment Plan (NERP) prepared by the Neptune Planning Board for the Township Committee.
b. Withdrew the title of “Co-Redevelopers” from both the OGCMA and WAVE.
c. Approved a 2011 private plan prepared by Shore Point Architecture for WAVE that the HOA took credit for negotiating with the CMA. However, the Township is processing it as if it were a public plan.
That plan is now the OGNED plan that includes the Pavilion building in one section of resolution 18-395, but does not include the Pavilion in another section of the same resolution (Attachment A, dated 11-26-2018.)
d. OGNED is now designated as the exclusive Conditional Redeveloper. But it will become the Redeveloper when a Redevelopers Agreement is signed with the Township.
In 2019: The Township Business Administrator reported, “All issues regarding the OGNED plan have been worked out,” and a Redevelopers Agreement is ready to be signed.
It is clear that the Township Committee has already approved the private development plan prepared by WAVE for OGNED.
The next step is off to the Planning Board, and they will decide if the new OGNED plan is the same plan they prepared with Planning Consultants T&M Associates for the Township Committee in 2008.
Of course, it is not the same plan, but they will say “it is,” or they will be replaced
What is the Ocean Grove Homeowners Association’s role in all of this?
With a favorable response at the June 22 meeting of the HOA, the Township Committee can say, “The Home Owners of Ocean Grove support the high density WAVE/OGNED plan.” After all, they supported the first 2008 plan and took credit for negotiating the new plan.
But to make the record clear on this matter, the Homeowners Association at their upcoming meeting should entertain a Motion of the Membership that they approve or do not approve the OGNED plan for the North End.
As to the HPC, they only make a recommendation, but the HOA represents the “conscience of the community of Ocean Grove” as well as the “will” of the people.
Is there any hope for Ocean Grove?
Editor’s note: HOA members—be sure to demand a vote as to whether the group wants to support the plan presented to them by Mr. Gannon.
That vote should only take place after all audience questions are answered and discussed.
And make sure that the individual who is presenting the plan is giving you confidence that he can be trusted to do the right thing for the residential and historic town of Ocean Grove.
Paul Goldfinger, Editor Blogfinger.net.
BAN THE PLAN!
THE PLATTERS. Perhaps the HOA leadership will say they’re sorry for supporting the Township on this:
Jack Bredin and Paul Goldfinger, Blogfinger.net. May 30, 2019. Ocean Grove, NJ.
If you read the Blogfinger North End Update below, you will see that Administrator Vito Gadaleta painted a portrait of deceptive simplicity when he described the procedure for getting the latest North End plan off the ground.
He said that all the “issues” have been resolved, so a signed Redevelopers Agreement, which has been missing in action since 2008, is now on the launching pad.
His statement made it seem so easy: just take it to the Neptune Planning Board and then on to the Historic Preservation Commission: a piece of cake.
But not so fast Mr. Gadaleta! You seem to have left out some important issues which, according to New Jersey Land Use Law, require your attention.
This huge commercial, mixed-use-development at the North End is on the verge of being approved, along with the consequent big money that will ensue, and the citizens need to take a close look.
So here are the issues which worry us, even though Mr. Gadaleta and the Fabulous Five failed to mention them in their announcement at the last Workshop meeting.
a. Are they going to persist in calling Lake Avenue a “roadway?” Are they planning to turn the north end boardwalk into a roadway? Or are they planning a new road parallel to the boardwalk?
b. What plans do they have for processing dirty street water runoff ?
c. Have they applied for a CAFRA/DEP permit to protect our coastal waters?
d. Where is the site plan that will show pilings and elevations according to post-Sandy construction regulations?
e. Have they obtained a security bond that will guarantee that the redevelopment project will be built as promised in the Redevelopment Agreement, soon to be signed as promised by Gadaleta? Where is the letter of credit from a financial institution?
f. If they are proposing something different than the original (2008) North End Redevelopment Plan (NERP) then will they be scheduling public meetings for the input of citizens/residents ?
g. What environmental studies have been done? And what about engineering studies regarding the underground garage?
h. If they plan to rebuild the Pavilion property, site of the recent fire, then will they get permission from the CMA to provide access for trucks and other vehicles? Will they provide parking as required by RSIS? That property, east of the boardwalk, would not get parking access to the new garage.
I If OGNED is the contract purchaser of the North End land, then will OGNED pay all the back taxes on the property? And if the CMA sells the land to OGNED, then will the CMA be able to charge ground rents to those residents?
J. And for the part of the NERP west of the boardwalk, will there be enough parking to satisfy a traffic/parking study and will there be a way to get trucks and other vehicles as well as utility access to those properties that face Wesley Lake?
K. Will the Planning Board be able to approve the new NERP (which no one has seen yet) if some or all of the questions above remain unanswered?
So Blogfinger doesn’t know how many of these issues will apply, but it sure doesn’t sound as simple as portrayed by Vito Gadaleta, spokesperson for Neptune Township.
TEDDY THOMPSON AND KELLY JONES “Wondering.”
“Wondering
Yes, I’m wondering
Wondering if you might be wondering too
Lately, I’ve been wondering about this brand new rhythm in my heart
Lately, I’ve been been wondering why these thoughts won’t stop tearing me apart..”
Old Salvation Army housing is being turned into a boutique hotel in Asbury Park. Prosper Bellizia photo, Blogfinger staff. April, 2015. ©
Is this the historic look that the HPC wants for the North End?* The CMA seems to want to re-create the good old days in the Grove and call it “historic.”
This space on the southern border of Asbury Park, across from Wesley Lake, will get condos in the future. Does Ocean Grove need to add more condos to the neighborhood? Isn’t AP more in need of “redevelopment” than we are? Blogfinger photo.
