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By Jack Bredin and Paul Goldfinger.   Blogfinger.net

A resolution, 19-85, was presented at the Committee meeting of January 28, 2019.

The stated reason for the resolution is that the Township Engineer, Leann Hoffmann, is incapable of handling a matter that needs a “coastal engineer.”  The funny thing is that the specific reason for needing such a “specialist” is not stated in the resolution.

The resolution says that the Township “desires to appoint a pool of consulting engineers for services on specific Township projects.”

The wording in the “Be It Resolved” portion is that these engineers, already chosen, will be  “solicited for proposals on larger and/or specialized coastal engineering projects beyond the scope of the Township Engineer and in-house staff for the year 2019.”

The resolution indicates that the Township will be “appointing” CME Associates and Andrew Rella of ECOncrete Inc.as consultants.”

Well, golly…do you suppose that this is about the oft-mentioned underground parking garage which is part of the North End Redevelopment Plan near the Ocean and the Lake?

Some members of the citizen audience asked if this had to do with the North End, and Vito Gadaleta, Business Administrator for Neptune, somehow got the job of responding.  You would think that the elected Committee mavens could answer the question. 

However Mr. Gadaleta caused some eyebrows to go up when he asserted that the North End Redevelopment project was “not a public project.”   Therefore he seemed to be saying that it is not a public concern. And does he really believe what he just said?  

Does he not know that an “Area in Need of  Redevelopment” is, by definition, a public project?

Already the meeting sank into a dark hole of subterfuge.

Then he went on to explain that the coastal engineers just appointed would not be looking at the North End project. Instead they would be used for some other un-named coastal issues. 

So why were they  appointed just now?  He said, “We are looking to create living shore lines.”

Wow…where did that come from?  

In brief, according to the National Center for Coastal Ocean Science, “Living shorelines are a green infrastructure technique using native vegetation alone or in combination with offshore sills to stabilize the shoreline. Living shorelines provide a natural alternative to ‘hard’ shoreline stabilization methods like stone sills or bulkheads, and provide numerous benefits including nutrient pollution remediation, essential fish habitat provision, and buffering of shoreline from waves and storms.”

Well, if you believe that, we will sell you an underground parking garage.   And don’t forget, there already is a darn good bulkhead at the North End boardwalk, one that was highly touted by the CMA after Sandy.

Let’s consider a couple of basic facts.  If the Township wants an underground garage for the North End, it would have to obtain DEP approval.  But the DEP doesn’t have its own engineers.  Instead, for any particular project involving the shore, the developers must hire engineers who are approved by the DEP.  Maybe that’s what’s going on here.

As usual, we get opaque gobbledygook at these meetings, instead of clear information.  We are forced to speculate.

Interestingly, the Ocean Grove Home Groaners Ass. departed from its usual position at these meetings, which is semi-comatose, where it throws softballs at the dais, to an unusual sight where two of them actually went to the mic and challenged Gadaleta to explain the hiring of those engineers.  

But then, after hearing his nonsensical replies, instead of forcefully leaning on him, they offered him an invitation to one of their dopey meetings where he can come, have coffee and cookies,  and play patty cakes with Barbara Burns and her merry band of soft shoe dancers.







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Water flows through large pipes onto Main Avenue at the site of Mary's Place construction.  Blogfinger photos © May 9, 2015 ©

Water flows through large pipes onto Main Avenue at the site of Mary’s Place construction. Blogfinger photos © May 9, 2015 ©

A huge blue pump brings the water out of the elevator shaft seen to the right.

A huge blue pump brings the water out of the elevator shaft seen to the right.

The pumped water flow into a sewer drain at Beach Ave. and Broadway.

The pumped water flows into a sewer drain at Beach Ave. and Broadway.  Is it OK to pump that water into the sewers?  Evidently it is—where else would it go?

By Paul Goldfinger, Editor @Blogfinger Saturday, May 9, 2015.

About a week ago, the construction of the Mary’s Place foundation was halted due to water filling the depths of the elevator shaft at the site of the building being built on the second beach block of Main Avenue in Ocean Grove, New Jersey. Pumps were brought in, but they were not sufficient, so a large pump with large pipes was implemented several days ago.

When we went by today, the water was flowing slowly onto Main Avenue and then south on Beach Ave.  At Embury Ave. there was a small lake, and then the river continued to the corner of Beach and Broadway, where the water flowed into the storm drain for its final destination in Fletcher Lake.

Mary’s Place, a single family house on a double lot, is destined to become “a place; a respite, for women with cancer to heal their minds, bodies and souls.”* It received zoning approval under the heading of “community residence or shelter.” If you use our search engine above, you can read the posts on Blogfinger about this controversial project.

Evidently, the deep digging for the shaft hit the water table resulting in flooding. The Gannon Company, who is the contractor, has poured cement in an effort to water-proof the area involved. Meanwhile, there has been damage to a neighbors patio which abuts the building from the Heck Avenue side.   The neighbors are, of course, concerned, especially since the pumping continues despite the remedial work. With the pump running, the flood area appears dry.

This is not the first time a situation like this has occurred in the Grove. The water table was penetrated when the Youth Temple was built. That problem was resolved by the contractor, and our sources tell us that the Gannon Co. is confident that this will also be solved.

Of course, an incident like this causes many Grovers to wonder how an underground garage at the North End could be built when this Gannon project has hit water during construction of something a lot less ambitious. The North End underground garage is still scheduled to be part of the NERP, and the NEW NERP concept plan shows the garage to be quite an extensive structure. So far, no engineering report has been offered regarding that project, so, at this point, it is all speculative.


* Source: Mary’s Place web site.

HARRY NILSSON.   Does it flood in New York City?

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