Speaking of density in Ocean Grove, do you think more condos will do us any good? Paul Goldfinger photo 2015 © Blogfinger.net
How much do you think the Township paid for the 31 page RISS application for a “special area standard” prepared by Jennifer Beahm,PP, AICP, of CME Associates? Whatever the amount, and it is probably a lot of taxpayer dollars, the Township should ask for a refund because it is nonsense; because those 31 pages are a hoax.
The Township has asked the State of New Jersey to carve out Ocean Grove from the RISS standards. If the State approves, what will OG get? The RSIS standards require that off-street parking be provided whenever a developer wants to construct a multi-family building which, most of the time. means condominiums or perhaps another Warrington-style conversion (rest home to hotel.)
Therefore, if this waiver is granted, the next time condos are proposed and given a variance or just an OK from Town Hall, there will be more cars on our already crowded streets. What a deal! This approval will allow condos in situations when single family homes would be built instead, as preferred by most OG citizens and by our Master Plan.
The application asserts with a laborious analysis that Ocean Grove has enough parking to meet its needs. It even mentions the hundreds of spaces that Grovers can find nearby in A. Park and Bradley Beach. Essentially they argue that we don’t need the RISS because we don’t need that off-street parking when condos go in.
After all, that has been the MO for years here. Just build it and then let all occupants park on the street. Do you suppose that the Township’s decision is influenced by the fact that off-street parking is really hard to do in Ocean Grove for reasons of space and is really expensive for developers to provide? When were any of those earlier condo decisions done to benefit those of us who already live in this town? Did any of those projects produce a result that was good for our historic/architectural goals, density goals or quality of life goals?
The application argues that OG is quite built-up already, so there won’t be much of that type of activity occurring anyhow. If so, then why bother the SIAB (Site Improvement Advisory Board) with all this? Why not just let things be the way they are? After all, which is better for our town’s historical designations: more condos or more Victorian style single family homes? These people talk out of both sides of their mouths in order to achieve a hidden agenda. It’s the only explanation that makes sense.
The ridiculous part of this sad story is that Neptune is lying to the State as to the reason for the waiver. The application is full of bull&# that the waiver is essential to protect Ocean Grove’s historical heritage and quality of life. OMG, they say, we can’t abide the massive amounts of curb cuts that will be needed for the off-street parking. They say that curb cuts will reduce the amount of on street parking and threaten our historic designations. How absurd is that? I have seen apartment houses in Asbury Park that offer underground parking for many vehicles using one or two curb cuts. Do you think a net decrease in street parking spaces would be the result of that?
Let’s face it, this has nothing to do with history or even parking, and everything to do with greed.
The SIAB (Site Improvement Advisory Board) is supposed to be a group of experts that will worry about the historical protection of our town and about what is best for the citizens. But they are being sold a dishonest tale in this application, so let’s hope they see through the morass of double talk in that document.
I urge all of you to read the application and see how wrong it really is. If the Township is so concerned about OG history and our welfare, then why did they hide this request from us? You can get a copy of the document from the Neptune Clerk’s office; just fill out an OPRA form–it is easy to do.
A copy of this article will be forwarded to the NJ Department of Community Affairs. They do want to hear from citizens of Ocean Grove.
–Paul Goldfinger, Editor @Blogfinger—we need music after reading this. It’s healthier than alcohol.
LOUDON WAINWRIGHT III (music from the movie the Aviator)
I remember once, a few years ago, a couple of friends and I came from out of town to attend an art show at the beach/boardwalk in Ocean Grove. We did park outside of town (I think it was by the school with the big N on it) and took a shuttle to and from the event.
They should run shuttles all the time during the summer! At least then, when you have to park far, far away, you can hop the shuttle to get where you want to go without risking heat exhaustion along the way.
Upset Taxpayer: If you scroll down on Blogfinger you will find an article that contains quotes from the application.It is titled “Quotes from the application….”
Here is a link: http://blogfinger.net/2015/10/18/quotes-from-the-og-historic-district-application-for-special-area-standard-a-sampling-of-wrong-headed-statement-and-errors/
One of those quotes is about those shuttles that don’t actually exist. Paul
P.s. There is no shuttle to bring concert goers to parking locations…did it say that on the application?
As a homeowner,non-resident, I’m very interested in this topic and I invite anyone on the Township Committee that thinks we already have adequate parking, to sit on my porch on any Friday, Saturday or Sunday all spring, summer and fall, and watch the frustration among all visitors to Ocean Grove. Why isn’t OGCMA getting more involved in this discussion? The parking problem must be killing the goose that laid the golden egg. Attendance at the Great Auditorium concerts must be suffering as a result of the parking issue. Isn’t the Auditorium a main draw for Ocean Grove?
I’m sorry to just be focusing on this issue, but I’ve been working so hard to pay my increased property taxes that I didn’t realize this application was even pending!
Why don’t tax payers get updates or newsletters on Township business?
I’d join too. And I’d donate money to offset expenses.
New Kid in Town: I too would be happy to join such a group.
Has any thought been given to forming a citizen’s group to formally object to Neptune Township’s dishonest efforts to destroy our historical town for greed and profit? I for one, would be happy to join such a group and support it in anyway I could. I know many others who would do the same.
The $64.00 question: Even if the State turns down the application and leaves the RISS rules in place, who is going to enforce the law and insist that Neptune Township follow those rules? After all, even today, the RISS rules are in effect and they haven’t prevented condos without parking from being built—and forcing single family homes instead.
So Ocean Grove may wind up in the same place no matter what happens with the application.
But, then again, if the RISS rules are being ignored by the Township, then someone may just go ahead and sue the Township for violating all our civil rights that are supposed to be protected by the law. It is worth a fight, if for no other reason than to show the State and the Town that we citizens object to this situation.
The arrogance of our local government is awesome, and none of that current group should be re-elected.
This is a serious question:
Who in leadership at Neptune Township is smart enough to concieve and try to pull this sort of strategy off? It seems to me that none of the people on the Township Committee are that clever or legally sophisticated (quite the opposite, from what we have seen at the council meetings).
Is there a puppetmaster who is controlling the town council? Who is the master strategist? Wherein lies the true power center of this town?
Anyone have a hypothesis?
Paul, the Department of Community Affairs is most likely advising the town on how to achieve their goal.
I suggest you also send a copy of your article to the State Attorney General.
The residents of every town in N.J. are entitled to “THE FAIR VALUE OF SERVICES”, provided by professionals that are hired by the Governing body.